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	<title>Comments on: Who you gonna call? (And are your friends on that list?)</title>
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	<description>The writings of Monica Tan, a complete commie, hippie, left-leaning bastard.</description>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My uncle that recently passed away (he lived alone and was divorced) had my Mum and my aunty look after him during his final days although they were not close to him. If you find yourself in a situation where you&#039;re alone one day and need care, I&#039;m sure your sister and brother would look after you and take aunty monica in. I would do that for my sister (but im trying to teach her some life lessons now so that she wont need to depend on me in the future!!!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My uncle that recently passed away (he lived alone and was divorced) had my Mum and my aunty look after him during his final days although they were not close to him. If you find yourself in a situation where you&#8217;re alone one day and need care, I&#8217;m sure your sister and brother would look after you and take aunty monica in. I would do that for my sister (but im trying to teach her some life lessons now so that she wont need to depend on me in the future!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah some really great thoughts guys. Yeah I think I also want to add that looking after someone is wonderful! That feeling of giving your time and energy to someone else in need - particularly someone who you know is similarly invested in that relationship with you, or with the community you&#039;re both a part of - is really, really rewarding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah some really great thoughts guys. Yeah I think I also want to add that looking after someone is wonderful! That feeling of giving your time and energy to someone else in need &#8211; particularly someone who you know is similarly invested in that relationship with you, or with the community you&#8217;re both a part of &#8211; is really, really rewarding.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not always the case that you can count on families for support. Unfortunately, there are a lot of families out there who are estranged for one reason or another (sadly, usually money and inheritance). We are lucky to have close families (albeit not nuclear ones) and I think a lot of it comes down to the individual. Whether or not someone makes a good supportive family member will usually mean they are a good friend too with strong morals. I like to think that my brother and sister would always be there for me just as much as they would for their partners and their best friends. In the same way, I know I will always be there for my family and friends. Sure, I&#039;m not married with kids and tied down with responsibilities but my friends have always been so important to me and that will never change. Once you realise that the most important thing in life is human connection and love, then you will always want to foster that and look after the ones you love and who provide you with love. I think that&#039;s why so many corporate players are so unhappy. They have very little time for genuine human relationships. They think money is the most important thing but they have it all wrong. 

I also don&#039;t think you can automatically rely on a partner either. As I say, it all comes down to the individual. Oh and by the way, along with that Jane-Austen style community comes nosiness, petty jealousies and claustrophobia. Having said that, I would definitely like to have a more neighbourly community where I live. We should bring back the good old-fashioned street party. 

Monica, you can come and stay with me whenever you want (well, when I actually have my own place to live that is!) You will always be welcome. Just as long as you remember to turn off the gas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not always the case that you can count on families for support. Unfortunately, there are a lot of families out there who are estranged for one reason or another (sadly, usually money and inheritance). We are lucky to have close families (albeit not nuclear ones) and I think a lot of it comes down to the individual. Whether or not someone makes a good supportive family member will usually mean they are a good friend too with strong morals. I like to think that my brother and sister would always be there for me just as much as they would for their partners and their best friends. In the same way, I know I will always be there for my family and friends. Sure, I&#8217;m not married with kids and tied down with responsibilities but my friends have always been so important to me and that will never change. Once you realise that the most important thing in life is human connection and love, then you will always want to foster that and look after the ones you love and who provide you with love. I think that&#8217;s why so many corporate players are so unhappy. They have very little time for genuine human relationships. They think money is the most important thing but they have it all wrong. </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think you can automatically rely on a partner either. As I say, it all comes down to the individual. Oh and by the way, along with that Jane-Austen style community comes nosiness, petty jealousies and claustrophobia. Having said that, I would definitely like to have a more neighbourly community where I live. We should bring back the good old-fashioned street party. </p>
<p>Monica, you can come and stay with me whenever you want (well, when I actually have my own place to live that is!) You will always be welcome. Just as long as you remember to turn off the gas!</p>
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		<title>By: Kylie</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kylie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, another thought. Maybe people tend to rely on their families because they are socially-conditioned to do so. And now that the nuclear family is breaking down we have placed more an emphasis on the value of friendship (see Jane Austen vs. Sex in the City pre-movie) and thus working harder on our friendships and thus create stronger bonds than before? 

I would say that I am closer to my bestfriends than my parents are to their bestfriends (well I assume so I suppose).

My other piece of &quot;evidence&quot; is that I find it hard becoming friends (note: MY conception of what a friend should be) here in Argentina, and I put down that down in part to the HUGE emphasis on family here. Actually I did a post on this ages ago....http://heidistar.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html

Basically, Argentines spend a lot of time with their families (for example good luck trying to get an Argentine to do something on a Sunday....traditionally day of the family) and therefore I find that a lot of them can be rather flippant, &quot;fairweather&quot; friends. So would I ever look after them for 2 weeks? Probably not...well probably but maybe I wouldn&#039;t do it so willingly. That is because they haven&#039;t INVESTED in a friendship with me. Makes it sound like a hedge fund, but you know what I mean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, another thought. Maybe people tend to rely on their families because they are socially-conditioned to do so. And now that the nuclear family is breaking down we have placed more an emphasis on the value of friendship (see Jane Austen vs. Sex in the City pre-movie) and thus working harder on our friendships and thus create stronger bonds than before? </p>
<p>I would say that I am closer to my bestfriends than my parents are to their bestfriends (well I assume so I suppose).</p>
<p>My other piece of &#8220;evidence&#8221; is that I find it hard becoming friends (note: MY conception of what a friend should be) here in Argentina, and I put down that down in part to the HUGE emphasis on family here. Actually I did a post on this ages ago&#8230;.<a href="http://heidistar.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://heidistar.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_archive.html</a></p>
<p>Basically, Argentines spend a lot of time with their families (for example good luck trying to get an Argentine to do something on a Sunday&#8230;.traditionally day of the family) and therefore I find that a lot of them can be rather flippant, &#8220;fairweather&#8221; friends. So would I ever look after them for 2 weeks? Probably not&#8230;well probably but maybe I wouldn&#8217;t do it so willingly. That is because they haven&#8217;t INVESTED in a friendship with me. Makes it sound like a hedge fund, but you know what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Kylie</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kylie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GHOSTBUSTERS! 

No, seriously. One of my friends volunteers visiting sick, old gay men with HIV: basically their families have disowned them because they are gay and the &quot;social&quot; death preceding their &quot;actual&quot; death has already set in so their friends have abandoned them (although HIV medication has improved the lot for ppl with HIV apparently lots of people don&#039;t understand this still and prefer to abandon their &quot;friend&quot;). It is said to think that these men have to rely on the altruism of a young guy spending his time visiting them as a &quot;volunteer&quot; rather than a true friend.

On the otherhand, I would question whether this isn&#039;t more of a big city concept. I think there are lots of small towns where folks will help each other out even though they are not family. For examplle, my nan used to live in a really small town called Grenfell and when her best friend&#039;s daughter and son-in-law died from cancer, she helped her friend raise her grandkids. She didn&#039;t live with them or anything, but would help make things for their lunches, take them places if they needed to, babysit when her friend had to do something, etc. And I am sure that if her friend had gotten really sick for example she would have stepped in to help the kids full-time. This is perhaps not the best example because eventually my nan got so frail my family decided she should leave the town and move in with us, but still. 

I suppose, as you said, it is hard to tell until the chips actually do fall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GHOSTBUSTERS! </p>
<p>No, seriously. One of my friends volunteers visiting sick, old gay men with HIV: basically their families have disowned them because they are gay and the &#8220;social&#8221; death preceding their &#8220;actual&#8221; death has already set in so their friends have abandoned them (although HIV medication has improved the lot for ppl with HIV apparently lots of people don&#8217;t understand this still and prefer to abandon their &#8220;friend&#8221;). It is said to think that these men have to rely on the altruism of a young guy spending his time visiting them as a &#8220;volunteer&#8221; rather than a true friend.</p>
<p>On the otherhand, I would question whether this isn&#8217;t more of a big city concept. I think there are lots of small towns where folks will help each other out even though they are not family. For examplle, my nan used to live in a really small town called Grenfell and when her best friend&#8217;s daughter and son-in-law died from cancer, she helped her friend raise her grandkids. She didn&#8217;t live with them or anything, but would help make things for their lunches, take them places if they needed to, babysit when her friend had to do something, etc. And I am sure that if her friend had gotten really sick for example she would have stepped in to help the kids full-time. This is perhaps not the best example because eventually my nan got so frail my family decided she should leave the town and move in with us, but still. </p>
<p>I suppose, as you said, it is hard to tell until the chips actually do fall.</p>
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		<title>By: The kindness of friends, new and old &#171; monica tan &#62; kapookababy</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The kindness of friends, new and old &#171; monica tan &#62; kapookababy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mendoza, overseas accidents   1 comment    &#171; Love is a perfectly edited piece of&#160;toast Who you gonna call? (And are your friends on that&#160;list?) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mendoza, overseas accidents   1 comment    &laquo; Love is a perfectly edited piece of&nbsp;toast Who you gonna call? (And are your friends on that&nbsp;list?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://kapookababy.com/2009/06/25/who-you-gonna-call-and-are-your-friends-on-that-list/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had another think about this &quot;platonic marriage&quot; thing, and originally I asked &quot;can that first marriage really be maintained?&quot; --- I&#039;ve realised, hang on, yes, maybe it can. After all many marry and have kids, but still look after their elderly parents. So I guess it would be like relegating this chosen friend to sibling/parent status. Even if you start your own family, you would still have a (legally recognised!) obligation to care for them, when needs be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had another think about this &#8220;platonic marriage&#8221; thing, and originally I asked &#8220;can that first marriage really be maintained?&#8221; &#8212; I&#8217;ve realised, hang on, yes, maybe it can. After all many marry and have kids, but still look after their elderly parents. So I guess it would be like relegating this chosen friend to sibling/parent status. Even if you start your own family, you would still have a (legally recognised!) obligation to care for them, when needs be.</p>
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